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Old 09-15-2004, 07:10 PM
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Re: Where am I?

well joan , take it easy on old james, we cannot help 90% of the stuff we say , or do wrong......ok james , wheres the 10 bucks you said youd give me if i said that?
jgg , steve
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:27 PM
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Re: Where am I?

Heck....both Lou and I have our own dog houses and use them often.
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:00 AM
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well joan , take it easy on old james, we cannot help 90% of the stuff we say , or do wrong......ok james , wheres the 10 bucks you said youd give me if i said that?
jgg , steve
THE CHECK'S IN THE MAIL
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:50 AM
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Banghead Re: Where am I?

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Old 09-16-2004, 09:04 PM
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Cross Glow Lg Clr 2 Shiny New Car

There are things we want, that we donít really need,
Itís all about, our overwhelming greed,

When God has provided, all we need to live,
then we want God, to overly give.

We get a new house, then want by the lake,
we make good money, then want more to make.

We have it all, but we just want more,
that car of mine, has become quite a bore.

Are we saying, that Godís not enough?
That just having God, is a little bit tough?

Are we filling the spaces, where God should be?
More is good, especially when itís free.

Do we take the time, to stop and look,
at a night sky, or a babbling brook.

God made it all, even the stars in the sky,
and still He made me, I wonder why.

Iím not good to look at; Iím a bit overweight,
look at that moon, itís getting late.

All from God, and we dare to want more,
we are so far, from really being poor.

Our cup is full, with newly made wine,
and that car I have, I think will be fine.

Thank you lord, for all that you give,
and please help us father, to know how to live.

When we are tempted, and we donít feel strong,
just take it to Jesus, you canít go wrong.

We have plenty; I need to hear it,
He even gave us, His Holy Spirit.

A comfort to those, who are troubled by life,
even a rooftop, to get away from the wife.

While youíre up there, take time to look,
see his creation, itís all in the book.

We have what we need, itís all there to see,
you can come over, count blessings with me.

One two, three four five,
man Iím glad, that Iím alive.

Praise God, for the mercy Heís given,
take the time, to check how youíre livin'.

I was just tempted; I couldnít get free,
my only choice, to God I did flee.

Now Iím better, Iím right about this,
we have plenty; thereís nothing we miss.

Itís all right there, itís in our face,
all Gods love, and just look at this place.

White clouds, and blue, blue skies,
and our Father, to hear our cries.

What more can we need, what is there to get,
but I still like that new car, but just a bit.

Itís so red, and it smells brand new,
oh no, what shall I do.

I know, Iíll wait on the lord,
last time I did, I really scored.

At times our wants, are Godís wants for our life,
I sure wish, God wanted me a wife.

But maybe he does, but just the right one,
or maybe God knows, it would ruin my fun.

If you get, what you donít really need,
you suffer the results, of all your greed.

Iím trying to chill, just kickin' back,
Jesus loves me; Iím tellin' you jack.

Couldnít ask, for a more lovin' savior,
but he could ask me, for better behavior.

All this talk, of stuff like new cars,
just take five seconds, and look at the stars.

Thank you father, youíve given so much,
you will never, lose your touch.

All you do, is try to please us,
to the point, of giving us Jesus......thank you lord.

written by: steve cliche...9/16/04

If you like his poetry check out his art work at
www.clichefantasyart.com
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Old 09-17-2004, 12:30 PM
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Re: Shiny New Car

james can tell you all about that....
we had it all about 10 year's back..then illness set in.and we lost most everything..
so what do you do ,? you change your dream's as we did and with the trust in god we now have our littel place in the sun...
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:00 PM
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Never Goin Back

I'm sittin in Iraq, in the land of Islam,
you guys had it easy, in the land of Nam.

This is war, it was actually declared,
we all came here, because we cared.

Now you guys, you who were in Nam,
you had it easy, you stayed calm.

You know I'm right, we are all hero's,
we'll get a parade, you guys got zeros.

We're winning our war, here in Iraq,
maybe you all, should all go back.

Back to Nam, to win your war,
we left, then we came back for more.

Our country supports us, unlike you,
I guess you all, didn't know what to do.

We are hero's, we deserve every bit,
but in your war, you didn't win it.

Some of you fought, but not to hard,
I heard of one, who was always on guard.

We know about Nam, read it in a book,
must not of tried, look how long it took.

In just one year, we've lost a thousand guys,
why did you come back, with that look in your eyes?

We seem to be, on the right track,
know what were doin, here in Iraq.

You were in a conflict, we are at war,
you lost your conflict, we know the score.

I've always wondered, what you did wrong,
for you to be there, so very long.

We're kickin butt, we're gettin it done,
all those years, and you never won.

No wonder, there were no parades,
you fired bullets, and used some band aids.

But this one is real, a real declared war,
with all the blood, the guts and the gore.

Just watch your news, we're hero's they say,
what did you do, just go there to play?

I heard you got medals, but some gave them back,
we don't do that, oh no, not here in Iraq.

When I get home, parades and ticker tape,
I'll get a good job, I'll be in great shape.

You guys should have tried, tried to win,
how did that Nam thing, even begin?

You had it kinda tough, but we have it bad,
you're all screwed up, just like my dad.

He was in your conflict, he still cant sleep,
what are the reasons? Memory's he keeps.

Did you see, when we caught Mr Hussein?
Caught that dude, no bullets no pain.

I guess in a conflict, you don't try as much,
but we are winning , we've got the touch.

Oh yes we're all hero's, over here in Iraq,
but when I leave, I'm never going back.

written by :steve cliche...9/4/04
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Old 09-18-2004, 06:38 AM
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Re: Never Goin Back

so thats the poem that caused all the fuss.....well....ill be......i just read it....didnt seem all that big of a deal to me.....there were some truths...some insights....i mean , after all , im a vietnam vet, i have every right to speal about my feelings...theres a waitress at the coffee shop, her husband is in iraq, she keeps me informed, actually hes getting debriefed at the moment. hes home now. she knew i was praying for her husband, so she kept me informed. im glad hes back.....debriefed....theres a novel idea.....thats kinda what the poem was about....the differences in our wars....debriefed????....ok....i know this...one day in war, the next on the street dont work...soooooooooooo im glad for the changes. but the differences was all the poem was about....what folks seem to forget, that i have not, is that a guy who just got back from war is not going to be to concerned with any poem. if you think that would really bother anyone , well, you do not know war vets at all....when i came home, i was in school soon after....for the bucks....i was standing on the front steps, leaning on the rail, smoking a cigarette, a car pulled up, started messing with this young guy, he kept walking, these guys threw a beer bottle at him, they just looked at me leaning, watchin, never said a word to me, i watched as the driver took out a gun, and fired at this guy trying to just walk away.....they put it in reverse.....and as the driver backed up he looked at me, i had not even moved.....his gun was very small in my opinion......ha ha...true though.....at that time in my life, i really dont think a stupid poem would have bothered me either....oh ok....no they did not hit anyone. yes they were arrested later at a different school, and no , i would not respond the same way today....i would pull out my own gun , and the driving around schools shooting at students would cease.....but heaven forbid , dont read me a poem...ha...just chill guys, it aint going to effect a guy who just got home from war......sheeeeeesh
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Old 09-18-2004, 06:49 AM
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Re: Shiny New Car

joan, im glad for your place in the sun...we all need the son<<<little play on words....im an artist, i live in the qzark mountains in n.w. arkansas... 22 acreas of woods, and a little creek...i love it....speaking of art....those photos were awesome boot.....very kool....i sell my art on my web site www.clichefantasyart.com i had two boys, christian killed himself, in 91. aaron is awesome...hes in the airforce in n. dakota...i have two grandkids now, cooper and tanner, oh yea, and my harley....ha....take the creek, take the house, but oh my , leave the bike
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Old 09-18-2004, 07:54 AM
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Re: Shiny New Car

joan , you wrote.....what do you do?....so i told you....then dallee said i better read your post again.....i get it now....but....now you know what i do...ha
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Old 09-18-2004, 08:39 AM
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joan , you wrote.....what do you do?....so i told you....then dallee said i better read your post again.....i get it now....but....now you know what i do...ha
BEING A BICKER THEN JAMES SAID YOU SHOULD ENJOY THIS..
YES STEVE WE ARE ALL MIS UNDERSTOUD AT TIME'S WE JEST CAN'T LITE IT GET TO US
BY THE WAY JAMES DOSE SELL ANY OF HIS WORK IT IS THERE FOR ALL TO ENJOY AND COPY IS THEY WANT..JEST LEAVE OUR NAME'S ON THEM
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Old 09-18-2004, 05:33 PM
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Re: Never Goin Back

debriefed, like that term for the return to CONUS
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Old 09-19-2004, 06:58 AM
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Re: Never Goin Back

Roger 10/4 Over And Out..
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:58 AM
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08 Loved The Army

I hated the shirts, and I hated the shoes,
hated all the doníts, and all the dos.

I hated sergeants, and all their stripes,
I hated officers, with all their gripes.

I hated the service, all the military,
I hated Nam, it was too scary.

I hated gettin up, and wearing those clothes,
I hated wearin, what others chose.

I hated orders, yuck just the sound,
I hated marchin, we'd go round and round.

I hated the army, donít get me started,
I hated it all, accept when we parted.

I hated Sgt. Hadnot, man what a name,
I hated that I, was always to blame.

I hated the marines, and I wasnít there,
I hated the military, so I didnít care.

I hated the navy, little sailor suits,
I hated my pants, and even my boots.

I hated basic training, and all their yellin,
I hated the food, and all its smellin.

I hated inspections, finding what I hid,
I hated their looks, whenever they did.

I hated the air force, and all their planes,
I hated their war, and all its pains.

I hated it all, every little bit,
I hated being told, if I could sit.

I hated the merchant marines, and they donít count,
I hated the coast guard, whatever amount.

I hated the service, general to E1,
I hated it all, I hated my gun.

I hated my orders, the ones I performed.
I hated the army, I never conformed.

I hated Col. Smart, just the look on his face,
I hated a lot; I think the whole place.

I hated the color, who likes OD green?
I hated everyday, is I guess what I mean.

I hated boy scouts, just cause of their dress,
I hated the military, thatís my guess.

I hated being told, to cut my hair,
I hated the fact, it was not there.

I hated the buildings, the paths I walked,
I hated formation, where they all talked.

I hated the most, and in this I am proud,
I hated the army, and I say it loud.

written by: PVT E1 steven cliche....made E3 three times in Nam.
I guess I hated E4 too......9/18/04

Steve also draws some pretty cool pics
see them at www.clichefantasyart.com
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:06 PM
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Fyi Re: Loved The Army

well i hated the navy to much water
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:09 PM
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Re: Loved The Army

Steve

Do I detect some Hate in your last post?
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:38 PM
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Re: Loved The Army

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Steve

Do I detect some Hate in your last post?
YOU KNOW TROOPER I SERVED IN BOTH THE MARINE'S AND THE ARMY
I'M PRODE OF BOTH SERVICE'S AND GLAD I WAS ABLE TO SERVE...
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Old 09-20-2004, 05:15 PM
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Re: Loved The Army

Mr. Cliche

I am concerned. I really wish you would open up just a little. Tell us what you thought of being in the army. It is not healthy to keep these things bottled up. Let your feelings out man, share.
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:01 PM
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Re: Loved The Army

ok ....ummmm.....yuck
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:14 PM
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1234, I LOVE THE MARINE CORPS. Thats why I did 9 yrs. before I was let go, would have done 20
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